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Living Eyes, The

Guilty Pleasures / Lowlife

Agitated

***Limited edition new two tracker from one of Geetroit’s (that’s Geelong, Victoria to you pommy losers!) best! THE LIVING EYES deal in punk rock, as in pop, with a snarl and whipsmart edge. Australia has some killer stuff going on (as usual), and this new breed of Murder Punk Unknowns features the likes of the Living Eyes at the forefront. Snotty, snarly, and almost both tracks being pop hits (from the gutter), fans of the Hard Ons, Psycho Surgeons, Fun Things, and Ramones might want to check some of this action out! A Split release with Agitated and Anti-Fade.

Icarus Line

Avowed Slavery

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Hey, this ain’t no “followup” number, this is the other arm getting a shot—the Slave Vows-era Icarus Line getting its i’s dotted. The companion release to that well-received 2013 album, Avowed Slavery completes the circle of fury. With the video release of “City Job” at the end of 2013, and Slave Vows still making people talk, it was time to put these songs to wax and prepare the world for The Icarus Line’s next move. This mini-album serves as a booster jab; the feral ferocity of the last album is here in spades, the fire in the band’s belly burning as hotly as ever. Frontman Joe Cardamone leads the gang once more into the rough—the desecrated war-zones of the music industry, American culture, and love—their brand of hellfire and brimstone rock ’n’ roll on full display. “Leeches and Seeds” is a frenetic blast of noise, Ben Hallett’s drums threatening to collapse eardrums. A grooving and slithering earworm, live favorite “Junkadelic” could be the bastard offspring of Clinton and Bargeld. “Raise Yer Crown” closes off side one, the band’s thump-and-grind Los Angeles swagger back in full effect. The B-side opens with the long-awaited studio version of “Salem Slims,” first aired on the band’s 2012 tour in support of Killing Joke. This fearless headrush is so completely an Icarus Line song, there’s no other comparison—howling vocals, building / destroying rhythms, shards of guitar stunning all within range. Final track “The Father / The Priest” asks: Is this the calm after the storm,...

Straight Arrows

Make Up Your Mind / Two Timer

Agitated

***Agitated is way pleased to be releasing the new / forthcoming album from the STRAIGHT ARROWS in the summer, and to get the motor running they are releasing a limited edition 7” with one track from the new album, “Make Up Your Mind” and one track exclusive to this release…..a cover of The Tempos’ “Two Timer.” This is dancing music, garage pop nuggets that will get you up out of your dronesome slumber and force some rug cutting antics. Easy reference points are Nuggets, Pebbles, and good times! This is psychedelic garage pop without the patchouli scented kaftans, more yr blue bomber bop than LSD loafabout! This lot are one of the best Sydney bands we’ve heard in a good long age, forget your scenes, “Australia is hip right now” genres, etc, this record is fun, and is not for lameo pigeonholing. There’s 500 black vinyl 7”… get with the beat! 

People’s Temple

Utopia

Agitated

***Agitated gets in on the act with a three tracker psych-blast from the Midwest's purveyors of the finest 'Elevators chug and UK invasion jangle you are likely to hear! Formed in 2007 by two sets of brothers: ALEX SZEGEDY (guitar/vocals) and GEORGE SZEGEDY (drums) and SPENCER YOUNG (bass/vocals) and WILLIAM YOUNG (guitar/vocals). An easy reference point could be the Nuggets compilation, in fact Nuggets compiler Lenny Kaye had this to say about them last year: "Awash in reverb and mood enhancers, the PEOPLE’S TEMPLE create an atmosphere truly "Texas Revisited," embracing trippy International Artists like the Red Krayola and Bubble Puppy, bone-shaking a tambourine ("Nevermore," "Looter's Game"), and mumbo-jumboing poetics ("House of Fools"). Alternately soaring, dislocating, unsettling and uplifting, the album culminates in the phantasmagoria of "(Dark Dreams) Distant Memories," a hymn to the glories found in a millisecond's delay by way of Jane's Addiction. Pass the Kool-Aid," Kaye wrote. A live single on Third Man Records, a 45 on Trouble in Mind, singles and albums on Hozac, is setting this up as a complete doozy of a single. 500 copies only. UK import.

Howlin Rain

Live Rain

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***Recorded in various locations on the 2012 worldwide tour, Live Rain features vintage Howlin Rain originals including “Roll on the Rusted Days,” “Dancers at the End of Time” and “Hung Out in the Rain,” plus “Phantom in the Valley” and an eleven-plus-minute version of “Self-Made Man,” both off their most recent full-length The Russian Wilds.  The album showcases the most honed and bombastic Howlin Rain line-up to date: songwriter Ethan Miller (lead vocals / guitars), Earthless’s Isaiah Mitchell (guitars / backing vocals), Drunk Horse’s Cyrus Comiskey (bass/ backing vocals) and Raj Ojha (drums). Live Rain was recorded by David Streit and mixed by Tim Green.  “A great rock guitarist needs a signature affectation. Ethan Miller’s happens to be an abrupt up-strum that, combined with a backward stagger, probably makes him something of an onstage hazard to his bandmates. When he really gets into it, as he does with elemental regularity, the Howlin Rain leader resembles a spasmodic marionette under the influence of a power greater than himself—call it the power of rawk. With his long, thinning hair and big black beard, Miller also sometimes resembles a defrocked rabbi on the run. And when he opens his mouth, the history of classic arena-rock vocals passes before your ears in a full-throated wail, embracing the combined spirits of Bruce Springsteen, Rod Stewart, Leslie West, Greg Rolie and the ghost of Freddy Mercury.” —The Village Voice

Kilbey, Steve & Martin Kennedy

You Are Everything

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***Steve Kilbey from enigmatic Aussie space rockers The Church, and writer of one of rock music’s great songs “Under The Milky Way” (featured in cult classic movie Donnie Darko) once again teams up with chilltronica outfit All India Radio’s Martin Kennedy to release their third album You Are Everything, completing a critically acclaimed trilogy that began in 2009 with Unseen Music Unheard Words followed by White Magic in 2011.   The new album is perhaps best described by Steve Kilbey himself from his blog: “It is not anything like what went before with albums one or two. You will find intensity brilliance darkness and light more Low/Bowie/Eno influence that German sound and feeling, the melodies the arrangements the intent, probably one of the best 3 records I ever worked on. I don’t say it lightly! Elegant elegiac modern classic strange turbulent disturbed and yet so fucking lovely. Yeah I know I can blow my own horn but just wait till you hear this”—Steve Kilbey, thetimebeing.com February 2013 

Frowning Clouds / Living Eyes

Living Eyes / Frowning Clouds

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***Excellent scuzz and buzz from the wondrous town of Geelong in Victoria, Australia!! A new track from each of these bands: the Frowning Clouds play the almost perfect ‘60s styled pop smothered in a sheen of fuzz, while the Living Eyes dish out a swift one-two knockout with some of their hummable garage styled thwack! Both these bands have new albums on the horizon, both bands are part of the almost unstoppable wave of killer new Australian underground. Limited edition of 500 for the world.

Star Spangled Banana

Pebbles 2000

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***Whoa! Daddy-o! Here's some 100% hi-octane grooviness!!! Agitated is pleased to announce release of the long awaited debut album from these pioneers of the happening sound soon to be known to the masses as BUBBLEGRUNGE! Yes, believe it! Dirty amps tweaked to a happenin’ rhythm and floorshaking beat, eviscerating the soul of your tired and over-referenced Nuggets comps and bustin’ you loose with some wild grunt and grind! The songs may be familiar, but you will be too furiously wigging out to even care who or what wrote them in the first place! It's an ever-lovin' tribute to the bubblegum greats of yore! The Beatles! The Monkees! Paul Revere! Tommy James! Flipper! And more!  “Probably the Koolest thing that’s ever happened on this planet!”  500 Banana yellow vinyl LPs with a free CD of the musick. 

Carlton Melton

Always Even

Agitated

Andy Duvall, Rich Millman, Clint Golden and (introducing) John McBain on Echoplex (and mastering duties once more!) are Carlton Melton, Agitated Records’ standard bearers, their freak flag wavers. The travelers have returned with Always Even, their fourth album, recorded once again in a geodesic dome in the winter of 2012-13. Strap in, fly on—but do not be fooled by the gentle ease of opening track “Slow Wake.” It’s the calm before the psych-storm, a balm for one’s ears to prepare body and mind for the synth-riff-laden, psych-guitar-knockout blastings to come. Much like “Space Treader” on last year’s Photos of Photos, “Keeping On” launches into a unmapped zones, only to return to earth with the eased-back dome-drone of “Spider Web.” The trip continues with the furious, kraut-influenced “Sarsen,” a track that could soundtrack an entire flight to the Moon and back—not to mention fuel the rocket ship with its ampheto-cranked psych chug. Make sure all seat belts are fastened for final descent, as “The Splurge” envelopes all with its molasses-like fog / fug.

Icarus Line

Slave Vows

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Slave Vows, the latest from Los Angeles hellions The Icarus Line, is quite possibly their best yet. A fearsome, vitriolic rock ’n’ roll outpouring of Stoogian glory, the album draws on the fury of Mono, the fire of Penance Soirée and the swagger of Black Lives at the Golden Coast and Wildlife. In one fell swoop, the band evokes the spirit of Funhouse, Everything Went Black, Goats Head Soup and Maggot Brain. This is not for the faint of heart! Slave Vows features new drummer Ben Hallett and original bassist Lance Arnao, the tightest rhythm section in the group’s history, underpinning the white-hot guitar flow from frontman Joe Cardamone. Some of these songs were blooded on the group’s 2012 European tour supporting Killing Joke. The Icarus Line is pure rock ’n’ roll hellfire, ebbing and flowing, slashing and burning, cauterizing anything that stands in its way.

Spacin'

Deep Thuds

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Now available on CD! Deep Thuds is the debut album from Spacin’, the newly formed Philadelphia act that’s bringing together kick-flippers, arm-wrestlers, and hackey-sackers in head-nodding, beer-swilling unity. Inhale the same fumes that fueled the Velvets’ workout at the Gymnasium, the Stooges’ sleazy-fuzz with Asheton on guitar, and the groovy zen of Nigeria ’70.  “Originally a basement-only solo thing consisting of [Jason] Killinger playing guitar through a pyramid of amps accompanied by a drum machine, Spacin’ has started to squeak itself above ground and into the barrooms of the city with a fully functioning lineup. The dude doesn’t even need the drum machine anymore; he’s got his wife Eva pounding the skins! Previews of their upcoming debut full-length Deep Thuds shows a unit who knows the economic gain to be had from a good, hypnotic riff. For those who have ever gotten lost for days in the strains of the Velvet Underground’s ‘Sister Ray,’ Jonathan Richman’s ‘Roadrunner,’ Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’ or even Deep Purple’s ‘Space Truckin’,’ repeated listening to Spacin’ is required in excessive doses.” —Tony Rettman, Philadelphia Weekly

Mugstar

Axis

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***Axis is Mugstar’s long awaited fifth full length album - an expansive collection of songs that take the listener on a journey. The destination is not important it’s all about the journey - travelling through different movements, diverse colours and sounds picking up from where Lime left us in August 2011. From the dark brooding (‘Black Fountain’) to the elevating (‘Tangerina’), the cylindrical (‘Axis Modulator’) and the sonic mantra (‘Upturnsidedown’) Axis showcases a more diverse MUGSTAR whilst retaining their unmistakeable sonic wall of sound. Albeit mainly instrumental, theres a real psychedelic groove that emanates from the kraut-rock inspired sounds of this record, it will shake you down in the same way the first time you copped earfuls of Oneida, Neu!, Loop, Wooden Shjips, Bardo Pondo and even a puff of Hawkwind.

Alien Ballroom

Zero PAC A.D.

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Say hello to The Alien Ballroom, the combination previously known as Koolaid (Global Tyranny).   "Huh?" you may think, "What has happened to Koolaid???"   Let's be perfectly clear about this: there is a current market glut of "koolaids". The group, therefore, have sensibly altered their nomenclature and are henceforth known as The Alien Ballroom. You may recall Agitated Records "I'm So Convoluted" compilation - or you may not. Rest assured friends, there is guaranteed conceptual continuity here.   On their new Agitated Records long player Zero PAC A.D. the mystrionic Alien Ballroom plant their seeds and pitch their balls on the lush interzone betwixt the vintage and the cutting-edge to create a seven song album that fuses Atomic Age pop foppery with Neolithic year-zero sanguinity.  Aficionados of their previous releases will find much to enjoy in this new recording - or perhaps they won't. Frankly, it vexes the band not. Of course, we really should have made some mention that this album is "song based" and not just relentless "space-rock-riff-battery" - is it as weird and leftfield as the Koolaid album? Probably not ...or maybe it is. Very different but very similar perhaps – we will leave it up to you.

Carlton Melton

Photos Of Photos

Agitated

On their third album, Carlton Melton elevates their organic, improvised psych-jams to the sonic plane befitting the geodesic dome in which it was recorded, pulverizing all psychedelic hypno-drone that has come before.  Mastered by John McBain (Monster Magnet, Wellwater Conspiracy), Photos of Photos is a testament to Carlton Melton’s finely honed craft—from the lush, pastoral sonics of “Nor’ Easter” and the album’s title track to the smoldering, gargantuan riffs of “Space Treader” and the synth drones and spare rhythms of LP closer “Wingspan.” The four-piece melds what might otherwise be an indecipherable psychedelic mess into something coherent, uncompromising and loud: Melton’s Magick Karpet Ride. Two bonus tracks (available on the standard CD and download versions, as well as a limited two-disc vinyl edition) feature McBain on guitar / synth / echoplex. The full 23-minute psychedelically enhanced drone of “Adrift” peaks and dips as the title suggests, while “Smoke Drip” sounds exactly how one imagines a song called “Smoke Drip” would. And that is exactly what Photos of Photos is about: the sound, the vibe; a new age drifting, unchartered, across a sonic expanse.  “… intense, sweet, headnodding psych….” —Uncut  “… a dizzying, disembodied dose of fucked-up space psych drug-DOME bliss!!” —Aquarius Records “… horizon sweeping afterglow….” —Mojo “... a sublime example of psychedelia at its most expansive and exquisite.” —Kerrang “No bullshit, just plenty of brilliant, hypnotic riffing.” —Terrorizer “Carlton Melton are one of the best psychedelic rock groups in the world….” —Was Ist Das

Birds Of Maya

Ready To Howl

Agitated

For the past few years, dropouts all over the world have been nodding out to the amped-up riffing of Purling Hiss and the economical chug-a-lug zen of Spacin’. But only the most committed seekers have been privy to the roaring big bang that started it all: Birds of Maya, the finest meat ’n’ potatoes neanderthal hard rock group operating in the world today. At the strike of the first note, their locked-in dynamo gets real, real gone. It must be seen to be believed—though since the Birds rarely (very, very rarely) perform outside of their North Philadelphia neighborhood, Ready to Howl will have to suffice. Ready to Howl is the soundtrack to an upcoming feature-length film of the same name about one dude’s struggles inside (and outside) of polite society. According to the producer, the plotline roughly follows “getting off of work, partying, a parking lot bottle fight with a marine, driving drunk, the purchase of a deadly snake for purposes of revenge, hitchhiking, off-road driving, car accident, the folly of vindictiveness, and finally a physical and metaphorical ascent to the highest point of the mountain.” The soundtrack’s three songs cover Friday, Saturday and Sunday. While astute listeners might notice nods to Split-era Groundhogs power rock and the relentless garage mayhem of High Rise under a claustrophobic sub-Funhouse decadence, anyone with ears will pick up on the fried Hendrixisms all over this thing. The double-disc vinyl version of Ready to Howl has been out of print for a while, and...

Howlin Rain

Till The Morning Comes

Agitated

***Limited edition tour only 7-inch for the upcoming HOWLIN RAIN UK tour. A-side is a great cover of the Grateful Dead song "Till The Morning Comes", B-side is demo version of the album track "Collage," itself a cover of a classic James Gang track. Edition of 1,000 copies (500 clear blue, 500 clear). KILLER sleeve art by Alan forbes.

Mugstar

Ad Marginem

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***Ad Marginem began life as a collaboration between filmmaker LIAM YATES and MUGSTAR, created outside a traditional framework whereby a filmscore is added to a completed film. Members of the band were equal partners in writing, directing, editing as well as acting; the on screen drama was shaped to complement the musical form. Ad Marginem is both tightly controlled and claustrophobic.; though is not without a supersonic, dark and dense explosiveness, echoing Slint and Pink Floyd. Visually, the stark black and white photography of the cover pays homage to classic world cinema. The entire project (interiors and exteriors) was filmed within a stone's throw of the coast and contrasts post-industrial urban landscapes with some of the most beautiful Merseyside locations: the Sefton coast of Liverpool Bay and Hilbre Island, where the Dee Estuary meets the Irish Sea. A tale of obsession and betrayal, it takes as a theme physical and social marginality: a cult on the margins of society, a man on the margins of the cult. In case you’ve not heard of them before, Mugstar are an instrumental rock band all the way from Liverpool, influenced by krautrock, Pink Floyd, Neu!, Sonic Youth and Oneida. 500 COPIES ONLY. LP AND DVD

Icarus Line

Bad Bloods (version) / Slow Death

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***“Meant to get this out for the recent tour, calamity struck at every turn, but its a coming, so be ready folks: Non album version of ‘Bad Bloods,’ backed with a high velocity, ‘they mean it’ version of ‘Slow Death’ by the Flaming Groovies. ICARUS LINE just released WildLife and also just did a handful of UK shows, proving they are still one of the best rock and roll bands out there right now...”—Agitated. Limited edition of 700 copies. UK import.

Koolaid (global Tyranny)

S/t

Agitated

***“So, we get a tape of this in the post, yes, a tape, and thought it was pretty wild, then heard nothing…then we get a CDR, well two of them, some mix cassette, and a CD containing some OTT modern day Pop Art sleeve design that is retina rubbling!….with a scrawled note claiming, ‘when you put the record out, you have to limit it to 500 LPs with a bonus free CD version that has a different mix of the music on it, NO Downloads whatsoever and the sleeve has to be wrap-around, like it could be a poster, on thicker card too, full colour mind!…we are KOOLAID (GLOBAL TYRANNY) on this record…send us some copies when its done’….well that was telling us, so we had to put the record out. We listened to the CD again; it was bonkers, some wild psychedelic noise stomping round the room, meshed with some dark samples, really heavy and LIVE drums, almost a non stop mix of edge-of-the-seat paranoiac scuzz, with loops that pulse through the entire record. Like a modern day mix of the avant pop samplings and cut-up wizardry of Negativland, the obscure fractal pop psychedelic rock of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, some of the white hot guitar of the Stooges / Loop variety, and a primal beat /rhythm that could have been lifted from Cro-Magnon.. We started putting the RSD 2011 12” together, when another missive arrived, this time the message was simpler… ‘when’s our LP coming...

Mugstar

Serra (Distant Sun Remix)

Agitated

***Remixes were mentioned when Agitated asked to reissue the MUGSTAR LP Lime, we asked about, we got some good response! this two-track EP / one-track CDEP release features the remix work of ROBERT HAMPSON (LOOP / MAIN), he has transformed “Serra” into some 39-minute planeshifting kosmische epic. The first 19 or so minutes (side one on the vinyl) pulse with some fizzing electrical energies that evoke obscurio Kraut rock demo tapes from the mid ‘70s, they sail by, and then the second part (side two on the vinyl) the beats, the rhythms, they subside into some early (early!) Tangerine Dream-esque ambient but not ambient soundscapes, wholly immersive, wholly essential. Both "sides" combined as the whole "piece" on the CD version. The vinyl cut is deep, the pressing is from Germany (natch), and will be on clear green vinyl in a clear plastic bag, limited to 800 copies for sale only. UK import.

Mugstar

Lime

Agitated

AVAILABLE AGAIN!!! Long overdue vinyl reissue of the last album from MUGSTAR. Mugstar are an instrumental rock band from Liverpool, England influenced by krautrock, 'saucerful...' era Pink Floyd, Neu!, Sonic Youth and Oneida. They have released a number of 7" records including a recent split with Mudhoney and were one of the last bands to have recorded a 'Peel Session' for John Peel. Mugstar maintain a power and heaviness and extending their musical manoeuvres and textures into new territories, the mantra-like effect driven with restraint, atmospheric shifts and verges on enlightenment and dark uneasiness. Mugstar are a total sonic assault on the senses, live shows are filled with black and white images flashed over the stages they play. Mugstar are to release a soundtrack album to the film 'Ad Marginem' and have a number of other releases confirmed through the label mid-late 2011. Cut and pressed in Germany onto high quality Audiophile 150-gram vinyl in an edition of 1,000 copies.

Carlton Melton

Country Ways

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***NOW AVAILABLE ON CD!!! The San Franciscan four-piece CARLTON MELTON release Country Ways (Agitated), a new jam of gargantuan proportions. Featuring former ZEN GUERILLA members ANDY DUVALL (guitar and drums), RICH MILLMAN (guitar and synths), alongside BRIAN MCDOUGALL (drums( and JOHN STEURNAGEL (bass), Country Ways is their second album conjuring colossal riff laden dronescapes and parched psychedelically enhanced spacerock creating a mind altering magick carpet ride down the Californian highway…. Loud, uncompromising, and yet not a blundering stoned beast, this album has levels of delicate pastoral San Franciscan psych blowing through the almost freeform spaced noise jam. Unlike many of their contemporaries, White Hills, Wooden Ships, Cave, Steve Hillage, Bardo Pond, White Noise Sound etc. Carlton Melton are less concerned with the pulse, rhythm, and the groove, as they are with the SOUND, and the VIBE, weaving lush, expansive sprawls of FX drenched psychedelic ambience; drifting more often than driving, huge clouds of swirling wah guitars, and minimal spare drumming, existing more as a pulse, than a beat—the band drift weightless though swirling starlit sonic skies before the descent into trance inducing drones burrowing deep into the earth. (STREET DATE - 4/26/2011)

Precious Jules

Pearls Before Swine / Chinese Rocks

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***“What are these PRECIOUS JULES That all the ladies truly covert They’ll lead you to your certain ruin And then think nothing of it. Dangling surreptitiously Yet somehow in your faces Deflating your economy To inflate your airs and graces What are these Precious Jules That shine so dark before us Dazzling darkness all around Only to ignore us What are these Precious Jules So idly hanging round Your Precious necks or In your ear Wishing only to be found Acceptable for come what may With ‘come what maybe’ clowns Precious Jules are KIM SALMON and MIKE STRANGES residing in Melbourne, operating as a slick pop partnership, masquerading as a ‘glam/punk’ combo, masquerading as a ‘garage’ duo. Precious Jules are ‘Pearls Before Swine’ backed with ‘Chinese Rocks’ on 7 inches of the best use of polyvinyl chloride you are likely to encounter!”

Fresh & Onlys

Impending Doom

Agitated

***Another total winner from the Agitated stable, and two blasts of wild pop from San Francisco's finest purveyors of said genre THE FRESH & ONLYS. “Impending Doom” is the band’s their first UK release, and ties in with UK shows, ATP etc. Both tracks highlight the bands abilities in creating pop music thats skewed yet perfect and both are also exclusive to this release. UK import.

Carlton Melton

Pass It On

Agitated

***NOW AVAILABLE ON CD!!! Another slice of supreme San Franciscan psych-melto to be filed alongside Wooden Shjips et al, and UK’s own Heads, maybe Earthless or White Hills, but this stands real tall indeed. Taking the cues of Hawkwind and Pink Floyd (there’s a heavy hitting cover of “When You’re In”) to create some great heavy droning fogged up glass onion sike…know what we’re saying? Recorded in a genuine geodesic dome. Features ex-members of ZEN GUERILLA, and is nothing short of highly recommended. CD comes with a whole slew of bonus tracks, including the quite sublime 15-minute-plus "Star Of Hazel."

Francis Harold & The Holograms

Who Said These Were Happy Times

Agitated

***NOW AVAILABLE ON CD!!! Finally getting a worldwide CD release on Agitated Records. The label got boosted some tracks from the band’s mini-LP and their 7-inch on HoZac to create a debut album of sorts, tastefully sleeved in a fancy digipak. “Our jaws are still shattered and on the floor, it’s records like this that give the US Underground a good name… but this is the kind of record that pretty much blows nearly all else out of the water: its like the first time TAD’s Gods Balls twatted our tweeters, the first time Pissed Jeans webbed out our woofers, and when we first discovered the skronk-spazz of Wanghead, Scratch Acid, Samhain and Blood Circus all boiled into one exploding pussball. Nasty, horrible, dirgy, brilliant, scary lyrics…and the real grime under the fingernails of the US underground…. stick this in yr pipe and smoke it, well that’s what we think, you might hate it.”